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Old 12-14-2005, 08:42 PM Default Re: Cageling  
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Arrrrrrrgggghhhhh!!!
I give up. It's way too much for me. I'd saved before making the choice of egg/sword, but after taking the lily I overwrote that save point, so I'm screwed. :(
I'm so sorry to hear this. The lily/rose/waterlily choice doesn't make all that much difference but unfortunately the egg/dagger choice does.


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The clue is indeed in the book, on the very first page. That much is the same whether you treat it with the rose or the lily potion. However, if you treat it with the rose potion it will tell you about the egg rather than the dagger-- which baffles me because NOWHERE that I can recall did I see anything else which mentioned an egg, and all of the hints that I found (the fairy ink book, the note in the library) pointed towards the dagger!
Thanks so much for this information. They looked different to me so I was getting very confused. So, as far as I can see, the only way we can tell how to choose between the dagger and the egg is by trying all three potions and seeing what info each one gives. Only one potion gives knowlege page 44 so that must be the right one. One of the wrong potions shows you a picture of the dagger, therefore that must be wrong and the other choice, the egg, must be right.

What do people think of this logic?


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ok I have a problem with the triangle shapes in the basement i pull the lever and put corect shape o triangle but I don't know in what order I must do this to light 4 balls in basement what I doing wrong ?? Please help me!!!!!!!!!!!

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At the moment my order is:



But I suspect it won't help you.


The way I went about it was to firstly work out the sounds that I found most distinctive then work from there. There were often a couple that I wasn't quite sure which was which so I noted that and tried both options.

For me:



And make sure you save right after you solve this.
Thanks for you help in this. In early messages I saw this was going to be an issue, so I wrote down colours and sounds of each bell. My problem is being able to discern each bell in the tune, which I guess is the point. I suspect 'brute force' is going to do this one.

I would just quit at this point, but blood sweat and tears went into what I have so far and I am worried that we'll need something from game 1 to play game 2 well when it comes out. I am a masochist, apparently.

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Old 12-14-2005, 09:09 PM Default Re: Cageling  
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ok I have a problem with the triangle shapes in the basement i pull the lever and put corect shape o triangle but I don't know in what order I must do this to light 4 balls in basement what I doing wrong ?? Please help me!!!!!!!!!!!
Have you noticed what shape surrounds the triangle on each pillar? That should tell you which triangle to use.


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Thanks for you help in this. In early messages I saw this was going to be an issue, so I wrote down colours and sounds of each bell. My problem is being able to discern each bell in the tune, which I guess is the point. I suspect 'brute force' is going to do this one.
I found this really hard too. I remember another thing that helped was to try and draw a line showing where the tune went up and down. I could usually pick whether a note was higher, lower or roughly the same as its predecessor. Then I would just play it over and over again comparing, say the first and the fifth and trying to work out which was higher or lower or clangier or clearer.


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Hmm. Okay, I'm thinking I missed something here. I've gotten all the way to the tile puzzle in the basement (I've got the sword from the sun-moon room and all that), yet I'm still missing Knowledges 16, 20, 24, 26-29, and 31. Does that sound right?

I tried the apple thing, and no matter what I do I can't seem to get the code out of Karis, so I'm thinking I need one of those knowledges for it...

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now I have to back to the first room and notice this again :( but thanks for felp


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Hmm. Okay, I'm thinking I missed something here. I've gotten all the way to the tile puzzle in the basement (I've got the sword from the sun-moon room and all that), yet I'm still missing Knowledges 16, 20, 24, 26-29, and 31. Does that sound right?

I tried the apple thing, and no matter what I do I can't seem to get the code out of Karis, so I'm thinking I need one of those knowledges for it...
Yes, you definitely need 27-29 to get the info from the girl (is Karis her name, cool ).


I'm not sure if you'll need the other knowledges too, I know sanguinista had problems when she didn't have 17. You should be able to get all of them apart from 26.


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Old 12-14-2005, 09:35 PM Default Re: Cageling  
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Yes, you definitely need 27-29 to get the info from the girl (is Karis her name, cool ).


I'm not sure if you'll need the other knowledges too, I know sanguinista had problems when she didn't have 17. You should be able to get all of them apart from 26.

I did, but that didn't give me any knowledge, I don't think...

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Are you talking about the paper hidden underneath the table? Because I found that and wrote down the letters on it.


And yes, her name is Karis. Princess Karis, to be more exact.

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Old 12-14-2005, 09:39 PM Default Re: Cageling  
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I did, but that didn't give me any knowledge, I don't think...

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Are you talking about the paper hidden underneath the table? Because I found that and wrote down the letters on it.


And yes, her name is Karis. Princess Karis, to be more exact.
Great, that is exactly what I was talking about. This is what you have to use to get knowledges 27-29. How do you think you could use it?

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Duh. Again, I'm an idiot.

Okay, got 28... and yikes, reading that was SCARY. Obsessive much?

EDIT: I have 27-29 now and I went to go give her the apple-- no luck with the code. Still missing 16 and 20, though...


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