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bye audio and gothiic!
hey kiljo!
im glad this is the topic tonite cuz theres been a ton of things bugging me bout my religion, and it seems i can only tell you guys cuz i wont get yelled at or prayed over or, as some others have tried, "unposess" me

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lol i was playing yahoo pool wiht some woman form missisippi and she was trying to convert me to christianity

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lol!!!!! that sounds like my mom! :lol:

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Hey guys... hmm religion discussion or arguement? just thought I check before I start paying attention

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does you mom live in missisippi and play yahoo pool

disscussion

hi mags

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i would say discussion. and hi mags!


edit:no, my mom lives in ohio and plays pool on yahoo

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hi mags :wave: How are you? Its a discussion! :)

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hey guys..
glad to here its a discussion so many times ther are arguements.. and Ive had to many of those ..not so fun

Im fine and yourself?

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ot sounds like my sister is droppinf bowling balls upstairs

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sounds like my upstairs neighbors... seems like they like to pactice clogging or something

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i can hear her singing (poorly) to a song that happens to suck

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now that sounds like some sort of odd worship ritual... is she calling on the teen gods of all girlhood. lol

you better watch it smrt your going to be attack with crazy girls

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i was just wondering, since you guys believe in god(s), do you believe in devils?

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howdy all

just for the record, i do

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thats a good question sarah kinds curious myself... I know I believe in one god and one devil so I cant answer it but ... I am awfully curious.

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no nothing of that sort the only thing i remotly beleave in is karma

but not the mystical powers of karma but the way people make it happen because if you are good to people people will be good to you and good think will happen but if you are mean to people they will bemean to oyu right back and bad things will head oyur way

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so what are you curious about?

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What do you define 'devils' as?

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i know there is a satan, but im not sure if he is the same as the devil....

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fuseball is the devil

i recently watched something on national geographic called the sience of the bible and they had cold har evedince that the devil was actually a roman general out to destroy the 7 main gathering points of christians

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maybe I was confused as to sarah's question.. my bad

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what "main gathering points"?

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hi K'lyn :polarhug: How are you?

I believe there might be a devil. If there is good there is evil but I do believe there is a lot inbetween. I believe in lost souls that stay on earth or in the spiritworld that when confused or when experienced a tragic death can become "evil" and thus what some people see as demons or devils.

I don't belive in current life karma anymore. In the life I know good things don't neccesairly happend to good people and vice a versa. I do however belive you can make things worse and if you behave badly you don't advance in the spirit world/recarnation or something like it.

We have an old old legend in Norway about when it so stormy outside that you feel the wind go through the house and you get this creepy feeling, that its lost "evil" spirits trying to cross to the other side.

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back then there were not "churches" the churches were just people homes where people gatherd to take comunion

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If I understand your question, you are asking if there is something that makes things be evil (Something thats not Satan) Then I would have to say, no... I believe that its a choice... Unfortunatly not everyone is in control of that choice...

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does anybody in here beleave in fate or do you beleave in free will

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i believe in fate. everything happens for a purpose. there are no accidents

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well one deffinition that I have heard for church it is two or more people gathered in one place to worship or study gods word..
which is what I believe... It has nothing to do with a building or where you are at but the perpose and emotions behing it.
So many times today you can walk into a "chruch" (a building) and what is going on there is the farthest thing from worshiping or studying god.

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because i have been thinking that if a person beleaves in fate how can they beleave in heaven and hell because if there actions are pre determined then they would be forced to go somewhere

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I believe that there are things that can make things/people evil but that you have to in some way open up for it. I do belive that you can get rid of it if you truely want to.

I belive in a combination of fate and free will. I think somethings are meant to be. Like a soul mate. Other things are influenced by the choices you make, aka. to a certain extent you can change fate. I do however believe strongly in intuition and following it, leading in many cases to ones fate or in some cases failing to reach the fate laid out for you. But I belive fate only regulates or controlls some things in life. And that sometimes you miss out on it. I don't think it controlls sickness for example but I believe it helps lead you to your soul mate.

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wow free will and fate are a very complicated and are so often the topic of debate withing people who even believe most of the same things.

But you have to realize that is a doctrine and only serce to inhance your belief and religion.... let put it this way... its like jumping on the trapoline.... the springs are doctrines helping you to jump and well the jump is the beliefs .. so though doctrines change many times the main beliefs are the same.

not sure that is going to make sense to anyone else

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hey everyone

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Hey mytruegoodbye how are you?

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hello what is up

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hi mytruegoodbye :wave: (what do you prefer to be called? True okay?) how are you?

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hey true! u walked in on a very interseting coversation.....

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cool. what is it about.

I am fine...you can me true thats ok

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about beliefs, relgion, fate, stuff like that. very intresting!

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i believe in fate

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i have another question:
if god(s) created this universe, where did they come from?

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I am off to bed now! Good night everyone (or have a nice day for those in another time zone!)
:ghug