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Bruja 10-20-2013 01:35 AM

Re: Cryptomania
 
:lP ¬@7ºi!d0*uHr :confused3 ???

(that's what I got... )

Tried reversing the numbers:
§ W�DBK.ö��.�

Much clearer now... :rolleyes:

Bolaf 10-24-2013 04:39 AM

Re: Cryptomania
 
A little tune might help...

Bruja 10-24-2013 05:47 PM

Re: Cryptomania
 
I had already realized 145 = 5*29 ... but then, instead of going on with the "most simple, most logical" reasoning, I tried the weirdest things (in other words: instead of Occam's razor I used a dessert spoon :rolleyes:)

I know Hel knows it's his turn. I also thought about a sweet, gentle nudge... or just posting something easy -just for fun- to give him more time... but then I didn't think/plan/make anything...

Bolaf 11-06-2013 12:05 AM

Re: Cryptomania
 
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Hel needs another nudge...

Attachment 77607

Bruja 11-06-2013 02:12 PM

Re: Cryptomania
 
Mmmm.... Suddenly I don't want him to hurry up, I'll need some time to think about this.

[edit] oranje???? :confused3

Bolaf 11-06-2013 08:30 PM

Re: Cryptomania
 
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:cheer: Yes!
Spoiler:

Bruja 11-23-2013 08:27 PM

Re: Cryptomania
 
As we all know Hel is a gentleman and won't get angry at me, and we all know know an idle brain is the devil's workshop, I've decided to post this so you have something to think about while we wait.

1-MHWTSS 2-NITMOI 3-BSTS 4-THABTO 5-BDSB 6-AFINIAFI 7-AWANPMJADB 8-HWHIL 9-TTIITW 10-ARSGNM 11-IIADBD 12-BBTHOADTTTOAL 13-BIITEOTB 14-ABDSB 15-HITBP 16-PIBTC 17-ABPATU 18-AFINIAFI 19-TISTF

Helanren 11-24-2013 04:22 AM

Re: Cryptomania
 
Sorry about that ;). I didn't know/remember it was my turn.... but then you've come up with better interim puzzles than I could anyway :)
Spoiler:
nudge 1: with groups of 5, I get

7 9 22 5 0 8 5 12 0 1 0 3 15 14 19 9 4 5 18 1 2 12 5 0 14 21 4 7 5
or (assuming a 0-25 alphabet)
H J W F A I F M A B A D P O T J E F S B C M F A O V E H F
.... :thinking:?

[edit] OK, simple Caesar shift added ;):
G I V E Z H E L Z A Z C O N S I D E R A B L E Z N U D G E

(which of course I would have gotten straight away if I hadn't remembered Bolaf's fondness for A=0 and used a 1-26 alphabet :tongue:)


nudge 2: I found the Rongorongo characters, but how does the second glyph (44) stand for an R? or is that just a filleR because no glyph 18 is shown in the table?


New crypto:

- 19 words?
- or numbers + letters: => 'different' solve for each word :thinking:?
- lots of A, B, II
- 6 and 18 are the same

Bolaf 11-24-2013 04:52 AM

Re: Cryptomania
 
As of nudge 2: Just a modulo thing (44 - 26 = 18)

[EDIT]
New crypto: me thinks it's Hel's turn. Yep, me too :nod:
Spoiler:
nth letter of the saying (e.g. MHWTSS = "Make Hay While the Sun Shines", NITMOI = "Necessity Is The Mother Of Invention", BSTS = "Better Safe Than Sorry", ... , TISTF = "Truth is stranger than fiction")

Bruja 11-24-2013 08:17 PM

Re: Cryptomania
 
Nothing to add to Bolaf's answer :)

Helanren 11-25-2013 12:15 AM

Re: Cryptomania
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bruja (Post 1460755)
Nothing to add to Bolaf's answer :)

I can't even find those sayings knowing they are sayings :lol:!

Bolaf 11-25-2013 01:32 AM

Re: Cryptomania
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Helanren (Post 1460786)
... can't even find those sayings ...

Some of those acronyms were really hard to solve, that's true.
Spoiler:
Here's a couple that I still remember:
THABTO = Two Heads Are Better Than One
AFINIAFI = A Friend In Need Is A Friend Indeed
AWANPMJADB = All Work And No Play Makes John A Dull Boy
HWHIL = He Who Hesitates Is Lost
ARSGNM = A Rolling Stone Gathers No Moss
BIITEOTB = Beauty Is In The Eye Of The Beholder
HITBP = Honesty Is the Best Policy
PIBTC = Prevention Is Better Than Cure
ABPATU = A Bad Penny Always Turns Up

Already had an inspiration, Hel?
I think I could come up with another intermediate one... :silly:

Helanren 11-25-2013 02:01 AM

Re: Cryptomania
 
OK, here's my answer..... ;)

In the manifold biogenetic examples (those things like a branched tree, an uncurling fern, the arrangement of a pinecone, the fruits of a pineapple, the flowering of artichokes) but also in many works of art (Sanskrit poetry, the Aeneid by Virgil) we can recognize these amazing patterns of gold.

Bolaf 11-25-2013 02:39 AM

Re: Cryptomania
 
Ok, you're intending to do so. That's fine :)

Helanren 11-25-2013 02:43 AM

Re: Cryptomania
 
But I just did......:depressed

Bolaf 11-25-2013 08:03 AM

Re: Cryptomania
 
Oh. :frown:

[EDIT]
Can I cheer you up with this (basically shoddy plastic)?

W3750 X8426 W3767 X8280 L9644 W3748 W3737 X8380 Y5847 H1699 Y7374 W8627 X3214 W3286 X3215 Y5910 H1670 X8427 L9639 J0548 X9076 Y9347 X9074 M9961 W9581

Bruja 11-25-2013 11:15 AM

Re: Cryptomania
 
[off topic] just a few days ago my boyfriend (after a couple of slips of the tongue) renamed Fibonacci to Fettuccine... And so when I saw your post this morning it made me laugh.
Mmmmmm....Were you intending to do so? :tongue:

Now: I guess "shoddy plastic" is sort of a hint, isn't it? ...Because I don't get it :frown: I'll think about it later. Maybe I can ask some relevant questions after some deep thinking.

Bolaf 11-25-2013 11:52 AM

Re: Cryptomania
 
Well, 'shoddy' is just my personal opinion. Many will disagree.
As of the values, feel free to toy with them a bit, but don't overstrain your neurons - I can assure you that math isn't needed to solve this code.

Bruja 11-25-2013 03:28 PM

Re: Cryptomania
 
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I've always had troubles with mommy/mummy (I can't hear the difference, unless the speaker has a pure RP pronunciation) so I have to rely on the context to determine what they're talking about :tongue:

Spoiler:


[edit] I've just realized "RP pronunciation" is stupid, but my two neurons are completely plastified now... :rolleyes:

Bolaf 11-25-2013 08:59 PM

Re: Cryptomania
 
A Pharaoh's mommy might in fact also be a mummy - after Anubis has taken her away.

And of course, you can take this away too, Bruja :jossun:

Bruja 11-26-2013 12:48 PM

Re: Cryptomania
 
I was trying to put something together, but it'll take some time (provided I can do it, which I'm beginning to doubt)... so here's a quickly thought one (translation: don't expect too much) :rolleyes:

TECDMOTELAYTEXERUGERHINMOILAYILASE

Helanren 11-26-2013 09:18 PM

Re: Cryptomania
 
Spoiler:
Barbie Dolls :biggrin:???? How did you come up with that?

Spoiler:
W3750 I Can Be Restaurant Fashion Pack
X8426 United Kingdom
W3767 I Can Be Tennis Champion
X8280 Haunted Beauty Vampire
L9644 Holiday
W3748 I Can Be Arctic Rescuer
W3737 I Can Be Nurse
X8380 I Can Be Dolphin Trainer
Y5847 Labrador Puppy Accessory
H1699 Marvel Comics Elektra
Y7374 I Can Be Rock Star
W8627 Ice Skater
X3214 Sisters Snorkel Fun
W3286 Sisters Train Taffy
X3215 Sisters Hula Dance
Y5910 Twilight Emmett
H1670 Batgirl Barbie
X8427 Catching Fire Effie
L9639 Supergirl Barbie
J0548 Trick or Treat
X9076 I Can Be Magician
Y9347 I Can Be Ocean Treasure Explorer
X9074 I Can Be Mars Explorer
M9961 Medusa
W9581 I Can Be Yoga Teacher


- and where did you get those data....I had to google them one by one.... - then change the name of some dolls to fit the text ;)?


- Not Caesar.... not reversed and Caesar... atbash...atbash reversed and/or with Caesar :)
- 34 letters: so no nice square or rectangle except 2x17
- contains "I cede my turn" (I feel with you there ...) but I can't solve the rest of the anagram yet (most? stormy? sox?) :biggrin:

Small hint for the unworthy?

Bruja 11-26-2013 09:51 PM

Re: Cryptomania
 
I cede my turn?? :lol:
I feel anything I'd say would lead you to the solution in 3 seconds.... Mmmm... I've already used this before, and you said you had also thought of using it, so it shouldn't be too difficult.
(I'll be more helpful if you still need it, of course)

Bolaf 11-27-2013 01:24 AM

Re: Cryptomania
 
Is this where you live? Or should we follow the path?
Idyllic creek, btw.

Helanren 11-27-2013 04:56 AM

Re: Cryptomania
 
Hmmmm....
Spoiler:
TE 52 26
CD 48 22
MO 42 16
TE 52 26
LA 57 5
Y 39 13
TE 52 26
XE 54 2
RU 44 18
GE 32 6
RH 45 19
IN 49 23
MO 42 16
I 53 1
LA 57 5
Y 39 13
I 53 1
LA 57 5
SE 34 8

= zvpzemzbrfswpaemaeh :confused:???

Bolaf 11-27-2013 05:35 AM

Re: Cryptomania
 
Think ASCII, Hel ;)

Bruja 11-27-2013 10:33 AM

Re: Cryptomania
 
As you already took the first step (and Bolaf seems to have walked the whole path :tongue:)... bonus point if you guess why I chose it.

(Bolaf, If you want to follow the path -nowadays it's quite a nice road- go east about 2 Km, but I haven't done that in the last 20 years or so)

Bolaf 11-27-2013 10:53 AM

Re: Cryptomania
 
... go east ...
Aah, I was going west (towards Madrid) first, wondering when the next housing would appear. Now, east is the more promising direction... at least after 2 km I found signs of colonization (Albergue el Barango). Arrived at Ventosa... very cozy and rural. Perfect for some relaxed vacation - provided they got internet :lol:

Bruja 11-27-2013 11:18 AM

Re: Cryptomania
 
Relaxed.... yes, I guess it was. About 16 houses (most of the buildings are sheep stables), no sign of modern life (it doesn't even have a single shop, or a pub), drinkable water only in the fountain... and one telephone for the whole village (at my aunt's house, I guess we were privileged, we even had an indoors toilet!)

....But I've always loved that river canyon!

[edit] I forgot to say you can post your next one now.... maybe it's because I'm a bit frightened of your threatening hard-as-hell challenge :lol:

Bolaf 11-27-2013 11:44 AM

Re: Cryptomania
 
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... a bit frightened ... hard-as-hell ...
Nah, I've already rejected that one. I think it's more appropriate to post decently solvable and entertaining stuff here - instead of forcing people to work with hex-editors or other non-standard tools.

----

A neat stegano trip without math. Nudges later, if needed at all.

P O S T E R B O L A F S L U R P V I V
I H E L H E L M A N H E L M A N S T E
G A N O A T O M S B R U J A F U N N Y
S P A I N B R U J A S Y N T A X C O M
P U T E R S P A R K Y E N T E R T A I
N P E A R L A B R U J A H I S P A R K
Y D R E A M H E L M A N C E L L I E N
A B L E D C R Y P T S P A R K Y L U C
K H I C E L L I H I V I V I M A K E V
I V I E N T E R D E C O D E B U G A L
R I G H T B R U J A B O L A F T R I P
H E L A L I E N C U B A N H E L R O T
A T E D H E L B O L A F B R U J A O N
O F F T E R M S P A R K Y B I T H E L
H I P E A R L A H I B R U J A T I L T

Attachment 78227

Helanren 11-27-2013 12:09 PM

Re: Cryptomania
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bruja (Post 1460991)
As you already took the first step (and Bolaf seems to have walked the whole path :tongue:)... bonus point if you guess why I chose it.

Either because you see yourself as the Woman de la Mancha, or because this is the place where your farming memories and love for candle light originated?

[edit] Running behind the times again.... ;)

Key: Silo princeps fecit, asort of magic square

Bruja 11-27-2013 12:13 PM

Re: Cryptomania
 
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I've been there (at Santianes, I mean... I love Pre-Romanesque architecture!), this is the "labyrinth stone":
Attachment 78230

You can read "silo princeps fecit" -starting at the central S and ending at the Ts in the corners- 45760 times (I had to google that figure, I didn't remember there were so many ways of reading that!!!)

And now my knowledge ends and my doubts begin :lol: What can I do with that info??
Let's take a more detailed look at your text.... Attachment 78231

[edit] Hi, Hel!! Yep, that's where I used to spend all my holidays as a child... and where the candleholders' issue began (lack of electricity, you know...)

Bolaf 11-27-2013 12:25 PM

Re: Cryptomania
 
:nod: The "labyrinth stone" is what we need.
And my string "silo princeps fecit" isn't in the letter E without a reason...

Helanren 11-27-2013 12:59 PM

Re: Cryptomania
 
Hmmm, text without Nord names :thinking:

Spoiler:
P O S T E R
S L U R P
S T EG A N O
A T O M S
F U N N Y
S P A I N
S Y N T A X
C O MP U T E R
E N T E R T A I N
H I
D R E A M
E N A B L E D
C R Y P T
L U C K
H I H I
M A K E
E N T E R
D E C O D E
B U G A L
R I G H T
T R I P
A L I E N
C U B A N
R O T A T E D
O N
O F F
T E R M
B I T
H I H I
T I L T

(maybe leave out the Hi :wave:s as well)

Bruja 11-27-2013 01:35 PM

Re: Cryptomania
 
The letters in the centre are red... Does it mean we only need to use them and disregard the rest? Or right the opposite? Or something completely different? Or I'm quite lost? (yes... that's for sure)

Bolaf 11-27-2013 01:59 PM

Re: Cryptomania
 
@Hel: The words in the text are (almost :biggrin:) purely random - and it's BUG ALRIGHT by the way.

@Bruja: You'll know why the center is red - as soon as you've solved the first step.

Hint: we once had a similar method... remember 'grille'?

Bruja 11-27-2013 04:03 PM

Re: Cryptomania
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bolaf (Post 1461012)
... remember 'grille'?

Yes... they had a grid and applied it to the text (rotating it)
As the silo square was the hint, I compared both texts looking for letters written in the same place (so I applied a kind of a grid, I guess)
And also tried to find an "E-shaped" sequence (now that I think of it it was also a grid)

..and I'm still perplexed and puzzled :confused3 ... well, I'll begin thinking about the grille hint.

Bolaf 11-28-2013 02:59 AM

Re: Cryptomania
 
... rotating it ...
... compared both texts ...
... tried to find an "E-shaped" sequence ...

No rotations, no comparison, no shape search. Even simpler than that.

Funny thing is, you're looking at the essential hint all the time. The kEy shows you where to 'punch out the holes'... ;)

Bruja 11-28-2013 12:09 PM

Re: Cryptomania
 
Satan = Ermesinda???? Is there something I don't know about her? Her father and husband are remembered as "Catholic kings"... never heard the opposite about her :confused3

Well, in fact Asturias was the only region that remained christian when the rest of Spain was moorish.... so I guess for them Satan were the rest of us :lol: (I wasn't there but a quick look at me and everybody could say where my great-great-great parents were :tongue:)

Bolaf 11-28-2013 12:43 PM

Re: Cryptomania
 
... Satan ...
The profound reason: Ermesinda was his (Silo's) mother-in-law... :silly:

Have you already finished your sophisticated puzzle?
Then please show it :jossun:

Bruja 11-28-2013 01:10 PM

Re: Cryptomania
 
:embarasse No, I haven't. I'll have to think of something quickly....
Well, I can also say I'm waiting for Hel to solve yours before I post a new one... it's a nice excuse, isn't it? :rolleyes:

I hope I didn't make any mistakes... Mmmmm...No: I hope I corrected all the mistakes I made :tongue:

ACT 6
Hel (not really worried): You look tired
Bolaf (full of mud and dirt): Yes, well... walking through that rural path was exhausting
Hel (trying not to laugh at him): But you did find Bruja, didn't you?
Bolaf (disappointed): No, she wasn't there
Hel (about to panic): But she must write the next chapter of "The lives and adventures of Bolaf, Hel and Bruja, gentlemen... and lady"
Bolaf (ironically): How can she do that, if she's not even here?
Hel (nearly shouting):Then, whose lives can she be writing about?
Coryphaeus (singing, of course): Elementary, dear friends

DR CHIMP FACE BRINGS CHART BINS SIR CHIMP BENT STRONG FACTS HARM CHARTS MISTER CHIMP ACTS FIGHT FACTS THINGS MARCH


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