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In other words: the usual (decimal) suspects 0 to 9, plus the letters A to F :zyup: |
Re: Cryptomania Nope, that's not the point of the clue; in fact, that's what you were asking and what Bruja disagreed with :lol: |
Re: Cryptomania Aha, so it's about 4 binary digits? |
Re: Cryptomania Yep, a nibble (great word :biggrin:!) - based on the idea that hex is, in a way, used as 'shorthand' for binary codes. |
Re: Cryptomania That's right - I was looking out for nibbles already. At least 3 (A, C and D) of your crypt letters are nice candidates, but the others (I, K, L and O) are not :depressed Bet your encryption method is rather straightforward, while decryption is not that obvious, at least for me... Earlier you told of another (intermediate) grid you've got; did it consist of 81 elements too? |
Re: Cryptomania It's actually very straightforward, don't look too far ;). Perhaps if I remind you of what I said before, that in addition to A, C, D, I, K, L and O you could also have seen other letters, but not every letter? The next step is not really a grid, but as you have to make breaks because of the Nord software (max 40 characters, I think) anyway, you might as well make the breaks look good. |
Re: Cryptomania I've read about hex, nibbles and binary, unfortunately the wiki pages were written in Chinese :rolleyes: Looking at the chart hex-dec-oct I've noticed the highest decimal number for a hex digit is 15, and the highest letter you used is the 15th one, i.e: "O" Is that relevant? Does it have anything to do with the encryption? Or, better: Does it make any sense at all? |
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Re: Cryptomania ... highest letter ... O ... 15th ... 1111 ... ... was pretty much the first thing I noticed; not that it lightened my mental gloom too much. By the way, being nicely within the range [0001...1111] was also the very reason for replacing the letters with their binary (4-digit) representations. But this was obviously the wrong way to Tipperary. Either my neurons are still in a coma or I'm totally overthinking this :lol: |
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[edit] Actually, on reviewing your older post, I thought you went wrong because "using the lowest 4 digits of the ASCII/position values" - not something I recognised as having done in constructing the code ;) - wasn't the way to go. Probably still true, but now I think it might also be because of another 'mistake' you made - which goes back to an earlier discussion we had :biggrin:! |
Re: Cryptomania ... a much simpler way ... Well, one could write the numbers in decimal, 15 3 11 9 9 1 15 15 9 9 12 11 4 12 9 12 9 15 9 11 9 1 12 12 9 15 ... but then it's not exactly 4-digit-related any more. Or write them in hex (implies 4 bin digits), f 3 b 9 9 1 f f 9 9 c b 4 c 9 c 9 f 9 b 9 1 c c 9 f ... but this led me to nowhere. ... an earlier discussion we had ... You mean the A=1 vs A=0 mapping dispute? :cool5: Either way, I also tried the index based numbers (here's the bin version: 1110 0100 1010 1000 1000 0000 1110 1110 1000 1000 1100 1010 0011 1011 1000 1011 1000 1110 1000 1010 1000 0000 1011 1011 1000 1110 1110 ...) and couldn't find relevant mathematical/visual patterns. |
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Now what to make of the second clue? |
Re: Cryptomania @Bruja: Sorry for not having posted each find/idea, but most of them didn't feel like being important enough to be worth mentioning. Anyway, here's my current experiment (replaced the digits 0/1 with ./# - which makes it easier to spot patterns or structures - and inserted breaks right before the #-triplets): Spoiler: Looks cute, eh? [EDIT] Played around a little bit more and put breaks right after the long gaps; turns out it can be interpreted as morse: ###..#..#.#.#...#....... TESE -> THE? ###.###.#...#...##..#.#...###.###...#.## #...###.#...#.#.#....... GEDMANS -> GERMANS? #.###.###...###.###.###...#.###.#...#... .... WORE ###.###.#...#.###.#...#...###.#.###.###. ..###.###.#.#.###.###....... GREY, ###.#.###.###...###.###.###...#.#.###... .... YOU #.###.###...###.###.###...#.###.#...#... .... WORE ###.#.#.#...#.###.#.#...#.#.###...#. BLUE It probably should read "The Germans wore grey, you wore blue". Now, in Rick's Cafe we have Rick/Sam (American), Elsa (Norwegian), Lazlo (Czech) and Renault (French). Who had the blue uniforms? I dunno... the U.S. Navy? Or the French: light blue? |
Re: Cryptomania Nope, that kind of substitution isn't going to get you anywhere, I'm afraid.... There are breaks involved, different types actually, but not in the places you show. Spoiler: [edit] :lol: I see it did get you somewhere after all :arms:! Well done, and over to you :jossun: |
Re: Cryptomania Drat, you're right. Made those first two lines manually. And boom, two type mismatches :lol: Anyway, I go for Captain Louis Renault. |
Re: Cryptomania See the edit :winnerthu (I've learned that the easy way for these longer transcriptions is to do it in Word and use the "replace all" function :biggrin:) |
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Is there another way of doing it??? do you have a script, or app, or software program, or online tool for decoding things?? I only know how to use my pencil and paper :cry3: BTW: Bolaf (and Hel, too), don't pay attention to my sissy fits, it's just that sometimes I feel I don't belong to this thread... I'll have to find a way of growing at least one neuron more :rolleyes: |
Re: Cryptomania There are online tools for almost everything, just google 'binary decoder', 'from hexadecimal to ASCII' or whatever (almost everything has been done, including Morse ;)) and see what comes up. There are also some sites dedicated to encryptions/decryptions/codes/ciphers, like the one I mentioned the other day. As for the "OCKIIAOOI - to - 1111 0011 1011 1001 1001 0001 1111 1111 1001" substitution, as I mentioned to Bolaf, I was quite proud after thinking of using Word for that :biggrin: By the way, don't worry about not belonging: while I (think I) know what I am doing, Bolaf is really the only one who knows what the others are doing.... He didn't reopen this thread for nothing :lol: |
Re: Cryptomania ... lines manually ... Well yes, I typed them (just for testing) by hand and forgot to check for errors. Basically I use the replace-function in my text editor, just like Hel does, that's the quickest way actually. ... my code ... :lol: I even imagined that Sam = Samuel (Morse) connection for a very short moment when I analyzed the names, but discarded the idea because I thought it would be way too far fetched. Sneaky Hel... So the 2nd clue was Rick himself (who spoke out that very phrase), after all... :) At least you really didn't overdo it... 1. text to morse 2. morse to binary 3. binary to text ... and 3 encyptions are allowed. Let's work on the next riddle... |
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Re: Cryptomania ... and it continues with some world class literature dealing with hyperdimensional cryptophobia. We're looking right at the climax of a heated discussion, held by three mystics, about deciphering patterns of ecstatically firing neurons, where Bolaf wonders if Bruja is a 'hex' and asks if it wouldn't be better to insert imaginary torture after the token - just to raise a harsh protest... "Add real pains after the token," replied Bruja, "to trigger some schema of nibbles! D'oh! Wander off!" Hel said: "I am very sure that all half nibbles legitimate a nerve cell utopia, witch!" Of course, we need a clarifying hint now... |
Re: Cryptomania 1 Attachment(s) After some thinking, pondering, investigation, reseach and intensive googling (looking for something, whatever, lots of different searching terms).... I think I'll need a hint to understand the hint Attachment 72278 |
Re: Cryptomania As of search terms, have you added 'literature' (at least we have an exciting short story here :tongue:) or 'chiffre' or 'cipher'? |
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Re: Cryptomania :nod: good find |
Re: Cryptomania I noticed (late, of course, I'm sure everybody else already noticed it :rolleyes:) that the text has 144 letters, that would make 4 nice 6x6 grids (as in Sandorf's example).... That's all for now |
Re: Cryptomania and :nod: another good find |
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Re: Cryptomania After having played around with the grids a bit.... We need a different grid, don't we? |
Re: Cryptomania I'm starting to get that same feeling....... :biggrin: [edit] Spoiler: Not sure how easy it is to make a new one though, you need to place the holes so that all letters will be used, that's not trivial is it? Spoiler: [edit2] Hmmm, maybe not. Tried to start with Toronthal and then apply Sarcany.... Spoiler: |
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Keep it simple (no rotations, no mirroring). Insert missing blanks and punctuation marks to get a message forthrightly referring to the main character of the book... |
Re: Cryptomania Now I see my mistake: I wrote the whole text in a 12x12 grid, then splitted that grid in four, instead of doing a 6x6 grid with the first letters, then the following one... Now my letters are the same Hel got. Bolaf, that was a lot of work, wasn't it? Did you think of the sentence and then tried to fit the text? (It sounds so difficult...) |
Re: Cryptomania After figuring I'd need around 150 letters for the text (at least, given the restriction of fixed letters, it had to be long enough to contain some funny and meaningful keywords, such as 'Bruja', 'Hel', 'pain', 'nibble', 'nerve cell' or 'witch'), I settled on 4 blocks, which yielded 4x9 letters for a solution. Then I started with the final sentence - fitting 36 characters, and it had to have and a rough connection to the book, so you could cross-check your achievements. Finally the skeleton was ready and had to be filled up. This was admittedly a little difficult here and there, but also a delightful challenge and actually great fun (I had to discard several hilarious wordings because of their suggestive nature :tongue:). |
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Spoiler: but of course, everything can be done online....... So, we get: drantekirttissandarfhimselfbelieveit - sandarf is probably Sandorf - but I can't really figure out what to make of the beginning? d:rant:ekirt, 'tis Sandorf himself, believe it! |
Re: Cryptomania :lol: I love that rant!! The name is Antekirtt, isn't it? [edit] You found an online tool!! And I made the tables in word, copied them in excel to improve the format and then copied the result in paint to play with a self-made grid!! No wonder I'm so slow and make so many mistakes.... |
Re: Cryptomania Aaah, of course. I had read the wiki page before, but this time I only looked at that Chapter IV where his pseudonym isn't mentioned. So: dr. Antekirtt is Sandorf himself, believe it! (and as you see above, I also did it with an image program - though I don't think Paint is equally useful, does it allow transparencies and 90 degree rotation? - , I didn't find the tool until afterwards ;)) |
Re: Cryptomania :lol: My bad, that 'a' should have been an 'o'... But now we know: Dr. Antekirtt is Sandorf himself, believe it. Spoiler: Anyway, I think this should go to Hel, who thoroughly analyzed all aspects of this thing. Ok? :jossun: |
Re: Cryptomania Of course it goes to Hel! I simply followed his steps. (Paint allows rotations, 90-180-270º, or horizontal/vertical flip, and as far as you don't fill something with a colour it remains transparent... but an online tool is much more convenient :tongue:) |
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